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Paul IsCool's avatar

Wrong, this has been done. See Presentist Fragmentalism interpretation of QM on arXiv. See also The Rates of Time’s Passage on PhilPapers.

An Rodriguez's avatar

no; also because only the present moment exist. the past is an inference based on the present evidence (subject to change, thus your notion of past changes); and the future, well, it obviously hasn't happened yet.

An Rodriguez's avatar

no. time is just a label to identify states of being.

Ben's avatar
Mar 8Edited

Or we could finally acknowledge (or be brave enough to try to disprove me) that TIME IS A QUANTUM FIELD if we actually want to make new progress in physics.

Jean-Pierre Legros's avatar

« They » time

Why do we need to measure time? Because psychological time has a variable rhythm from one person to another, even within the same person at different times of the day. We then resort to a more stable time, that of a mechanical or, better yet, atomic clock, to coordinate our scattered psychological times. What does this teach us about time? In practice, it only has meaning at the level of complexity where it is experienced. Each system of related elements, whether particles, molecules, or neurons, establishes its own time. The complex dimension creates a multitude of temporal layers in relative independence.

From the base to the top of this dimension, temporal rhythms exhibit dizzying differences. The time it takes for one thought to replace the previous one corresponds to an eternity at the quantum level. That is to say, if we were a quantum particle, we would not see any "passage" of thought. There is only one, a perpetual and definitive background. Frozen in subjective quantum time. But if we are a thought, we also see no quantum transition whatsoever. At the beginning of each thought, the quantum state of the world is so far removed from the previous one that it is impossible to discern any succession. Each thought exists in a unique quantum universe, alien to all others. Immobile in its solitude and its invisible frenzy. There is no quantum passage of time for consciousness either.

Yet these two “immobilities,” conscious and quantum, are intimately linked. And consciousness experiences a flow. There is something that is set in motion between the two, which neither the base nor the summit sees. That is to say, neither physics nor neuroscience can explain it by remaining in their own corner. A specialist in complexity is needed. One such attempt is the book ‘Temporium’.

Its conclusion is : « the » time does not exist… because there are myriads of them.

An Rodriguez's avatar

myriads of times?? none of them are fundamental. time is a tool we use to track change.

Jean-Pierre Legros's avatar

And the time you experience, An, is that also a tool?

Jean-Pierre Legros's avatar

My dear An, I will take the time later to give a more detailed commentary on your book. But here is a more general comment about… us :

https://surimposium.rhumatopratique.com/en/the-circle-of-anonymous-inventors/

An Rodriguez's avatar

also, in what sense you experience “time". is not change that you measure? time is a construct that allows us to to study change using a periodic process as a ruler or tool to label changes in the state of being of things.

An Rodriguez's avatar

only the present moment exists physically. past alteady happened, future not yet. there is only the present moment that changes. we label these states with "time" labels.

TimVy's avatar
Mar 7Edited

This doesn't make sense to me (we never measure time directly). Then you go and talk about clocks. ???

Paul IsCool's avatar

what about state vector collapse?